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[at-l] OMG- (pack weight)
Thanks Lee,
I appreciate the double check. No this is the first time I will be taking the whole pack, but I've taken one at a time on shorter trips.
We've planned the whole day for each section with no rush. The hardest day will be the first with the Springer approach trail and a bit more than 8 miles, but I think they're up to it.
I asked Jade (the 5 yr. old) last week if she'd help me lead everyone. She's been working with me and the map to get ready. She's going to set the pace and call the breaks (with my help of course) so that we don't wear her out.
Jade's wearing a Camelbak Skeeter which holds up to a liter of water in a backpack her size. She'll also wear a little fanny pack turned around to the front for snacks and to have a place to collect stuff. (she's a collector)
Carmen has a Kelty kids pack called a Tioga Jr. which fits her torso and can grow with her. She'll be carrying her bag/pad, clothes, and water and I'll have a fanny for her too if she wants one.
I'll let you know how things went after we get back next weekend.
-r
----- Original Message -----
From: L. Parker
To: 'Rami' ; at-l@backcountry.net
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 11:03 AM
Subject: RE: [at-l] OMG- (pack weight)
Having done this with Killian and Tynan (Trooper) before, I can sympathize.
You actually seem to have done very well. The one thing I learned and you
seem to have figured it out already, is that the 25 percent rule does not
apply to small children. Jade will not be able to carry 10 pounds. Somewhere
around sixty pounds the rule starts to work. My eleven year old can actually
comfortably carry a little more than his 25 percent, which is good since I
had to transfer five pounds out of the eight year old's pack and
redistribute it between mine and Killian's.
The other thing to be conscious of is pack size. Even though you have the
weight under five pounds, unless it is fairly compact, they are going to
have a real tough time with it. Since you say Jade is carrying only her own
water and snacks, I am assuming this is a small daypack and not an issue
either.
Have you done this before?
Lee I Joe
> ok here goes, I'm doing this on a standard bathroom scale so
> the weights will be rounded to the 1/2 lb.
> I'm weighing myself with the item, then deducting my own weight.
>
> Pack: Mountainsmith Mountain Guide 4500 c.i. (not the same
> one shown on the site)
> shelter: Coleman Inyo2
> Bags: SD 40 winks 35* and Kelty Voyager 30* for kids
> Pads: Therm-a-rest guidelight 3/4 and a closed cell foam
> pad (trimmed for length & width for Jade's bag)
> Clothes: (Me) silk longjohns, fleece pullover, Columbia zip
> of convertible pants, swim trunks with built in liner, rail
> riders adventure zip T shirt, 1 pair thor-los, fleece
> hat.(Jade)(the 5yr. old) silk longjohns, fleece sweat pants
> and sweatshirt, 1 pair smartwools (kids socks are way cute),
> zip off convertible pants, T shirt, fleece hat.
> Rain gear: (me)sil-nylon poncho (Susan's carrying Jade's
> rain gear which is a Columbia kids rain suit)
> Cook Kit: Primus Yellowstone Classic Stove and 1/2 sized
> fuel can, 1L Ti pot, 4 gradually smaller lexan bowls, lexan
> spoons for all 5 plus 2 forks in case the little girls need
> 'em, matches, lighter, (be prepared scout) aluminum foil
> windscreen for stove.
> Filter: Katadyn mini + Aqua Mira
> Cathole kit: lexan digger, 1/3 roll tp, home made wetwipes
> (bio safe), trashbag (for pack out options)
> 1st aid kit: 10 compeed pads of various sizes, small (1oz.
> sized) nalgene with meds, .2 oz. eye drops (2 contact
> wearers), 1 yd. duct tape, small nalgene w/ immodium,
> ibuprofen, safety pins
>
> That's the full list of everything including the bag, here
> are the weights:
>
> pack: 5.5lb.
> bag 1:(adult) 2.5lb.
> bag 2:(child) 1lb.
> pads: 1.5lb.
> Shelter: 3.5lb.
> cooking, filter, 1st aid, potty kits: 5.5lb.
> clothes and raingear: 4.5lb. (Note:
> some of this will be worn, not packed)
> Total: 24lb.
>
> Susan is carrying the other tent (which weighs a bit more
> than the one I've got) as well as most of the food, her own
> bag, Jade's raingear, and her own water and snacks.
> Carmen will carry her own bag, her own clothes, and water.
> Jade will carry her own water and some snacks.
> Leigh (our niece) is carrying her own bag, clothes, some of
> the food, and her own water.
>
> We've planned for weights to fall out somewhat like this:
> me (200#) - up to 50 lb.
> Susan (135#) - up to 30lb.
> Leigh (125#) - up to 20lb.
> Carmen (65#) - up to 10lb.
> Jade (40#) - up to 5lb.
> I'm the only one carrying 1/4 of my weight. Susan is close,
> and all the kids are well below.
>
> What have I forgotten?
>
>
> Now I'm really feeling like the virgin on prom night. I've
> never posted a gear list b4. Does it hurt the first time
> you're tuckerized?
>
> sorry for the delay, I didn't weigh each item before packing,
> I just wanted to know what the whole thing was going to weigh.
>
> -r
>
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