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[at-l] MP3's, here we go...



i personally woud go with mp3 player too if i was to bring soemthign liek
that only for size and simplisty but for all you people out there alwasy
looking for another option


you can also get a CD player that plays mp3s.... it woudl be the same as
carrying aroudn a cd player but each disk(burned CD(cdr/rw) full of mp3s)
could hold 700 megs or so of music which is (for all non-computer people)
about 11.6 hours of pure music enjoyment (depending on quality 11.6 hours is
at standard CD quality you can get better or worse) bestbuy sells some but i
can not vouch for the quality of them.

good quality music is at around 1 meg a minute. with the rash outbreak of
mp3 to the general public (they have been around for at least 4 years now
maybe more i can nto remember the first time i got one i know i was running
a sub pentium computer (486dx200)  even the stand alone players have been
around but you needed to be in some weird loops to know about them)  but now
every electronic company is all over them like BEES ON HUNNY. lots of
program can scale down your music to fit all sorts of crazy stuff on there
at a cost of quailty.  and alot of peopel can not tell there is a loss (i am
one of the unlucky few that can).

i have a rather large collection i have over 10,000 megs of music(10gigs or
7 days). mostly free music i have got (underground stuff and bottlegs live
stuff that bands dont sell and there is no other way of having) and most of
my actually audio cds have been converted over too and i have never used
napster ever. it was a horrid program and i hate it. But no matter how you
slice it a unit with 64 megs of memory can hold about 1 hour of music at
high quality period. it is the rate of compression and you cna nto compress
it anymore only remove data....... nuff said. other then that all that sutff
is marketing WHOHAA

i have a friend that got one said cd player for under 100 bucks with skip
protection and it is water resistant uses 2 AA batteries and runs on
batteried with out the skip protection(it uses more juice) for around 4 - 6
hours. we have used it in his car many times with wonderful levels of
succsess (he has no ciggerrette lighter)

 here is an example of one such cd player (first thing i foudn not best or
cheaperst jsut something i found to demonstrat what to look for)

Pine Technology
SM-200C+
Portable CD player with integrated variable-bit-rate MP3 decoder

if you are really interested in buyign this kind thing, i think there are
even mindisc sized ones

make sure it can
can decode mp3(wma is also good it is smaller size for same time)
can play cdr discs (these last longer)
can also play cdrw discs (these are re-writable)
can play normal audio discs
has skip protection(skipping on a buffered mp3 stream is bads and take a bit
to catch back up again so you might get a loss of music for 2-10 seconds)
ID3 tag support is nice to or else you might not knwo what song you are
listengin too.

you can also get this in home enetertanment size units, built in car steroe,
portable units and of course you can do this in a laptop or jsut abotu any
computer even unix computers as long as it can output sound

good luck all

yes i am a technology nut and no i dont brign any of the stuff with me in
the woods. i even use gps in cars when i drive aroudn jsut for the fun of it
all and stuff... but going into the woods is a removal from it all for me.
last time all of my old colege buddies got together we had a gps system up
front a navagater in the back seat on a wireless interent high speed
connection and latop getting reservations and directions and even opinions
on the qulaity of food. am i connected yeah a bit to connected.  thank god i
dont own a C*** P****

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