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[at-l] gun questions



I hear ya Tom, I live 25 min out of Detroit. The former Murder capital of US
and its rising back up to the number 1 spot currently at number 2. I just
feel in majority guns are a lot more dangerous and cause a lot more problems
then their worth. It kind goes back to the old saying don't start none wont
be none. Being a student of criminology I'm fairly educated on crime stats.
Your chances of some stranger committing crime on you in a fairy tail story
where you use your gun to save you self or other is slim to none. If someone
commits a crime against you its going to be someone you know. Or you wont be
were their doing it to react. And as any responsible gun owner could see
with his own eyes their are far far far too many irresponsible gun owners
who shouldn't be allowed to own a pea shooter let alone a handgun.
JTW

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Mantooth" <tomman@attbi.com>
To: "at-l" <AT-L@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [at-l] gun questions


> I have been reading the list about guns and thought I would point out
> some things that have been over looked.
>
> I am in Texas and have Concealed Handgun License.  It is becoming
> accepted in most states because of the rigid laws we have.  At this time
> I do not plan to carry it on the AT when I hike.
>
> The concealing of the handgun would not be a problem.  Bagmasters have a
> fanny pack that when worn in front has a gun holder behind the pack.  It
> keeps the gun out of sight but is very easy to get to very quickly.
>
> It is allowed to carry a handgun in a federal park  or forest.  It would
> have to be shipped ahead in a bounce box, with out the shells, but the
> law does not say you can not carry shells in a federal area.
>
> Josh your statement maybe right in some cases as I can not answer for
> all.  I spent over 10 years in the military and learn to take fairly
> good care of my self.  I know karate and T'AI CHI plus many other ways
> to do a lot of damage with out the use of the gun.  But since I live in
> the Dallas area and we have a number of carjackings with people using
> guns I want a way to protect my self.  If they just want the car and
> leave me alone I give it to them.   Still a number of people have been
> killed that did not resist, no witnesses I guess.  If I do I will go to
> court for a hearing and every case so far the gun user has been found
> justified in the use of force in a case like this.
>
> One other think I will point out and that is that Carjackings have
> dropped about 35 to 40 % since the CHL law went into effect.  Then every
> time a case comes up where the carjacking person was shot they seem to
> go down completely for a time.  They , the polls, have also shown that
> many other crimes have gone down and mainly in cases of violent crimes
> against mainly women.
>
> The gun club where I go to shoot has many women that carry a handguns.
> I have seen them shoot.  I would not to be  wish be some guy that would
> try to rape one of these women not a healthy thing.
>
> My two cents worth and I have no desire to changes anyone's mine.  This
> is something that ever person must decide on their own.
>
> Tom
>
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