[at-l] YuckYuckYuck... was GARUCK LIST

[Slyatpct@aol.com (Slyatpct@aol.com)]

In a message dated 12/31/2001 8:35:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
kahley7@ptd.net writes:



> Would you like some cheese and crackers with your whine?
> Jeez Sly, give it a rest.  The GA Ruck is set and 18days
> away.  Go, enjoy it or don't go.
> 

Kahley,

If you think I'm whining, you're wrong.  If you you don't like my posts and 
think they sound sour, you're welcome to use the delete key, as you so often 
suggest.  Atleast, I'm on topic, and when I see something I don't agree with, 
I reserve the right to respond, even if may be contrary to the flow and 
disrupts list harmony.

> 
>  It wasn't an arbitrary choice.
> He listened to input from people who didn't want to have
> to choose between the Rucks and to the FL/AL folks who
> wanted it as close to them as was possible.  

Are you kidding me?  Go back and read the archives and see how OB arrived at 
either choice.  First was the date last year, that automatically conflicted 
with the original ruck.  More than one wanted the date changed, so they could 
at least of having the option of attending both.  The date changed this year 
so that wouldn't happen again, which is good, but if I'm not mistaken, it 
took some coaxing.

Without repeating myself totally, I wont get into Goose Creek being 
non-winterized, and made the "suggestion" that Keith at GC was charging too 
much and either that a deal be cut to lower the fee or perhaps move it to 
Hiawassee, a venue with much better facilities at a better price.  (opps, I 
repeated myself).  The difference in drive times between the two was minimal.

It turns out last years GA Ruck went fine by all accounts and I thought that 
was great.  I was envious of the reports and pics and I was disappointed that 
I couldn't attend.  Still, that fact, doesn't change things and I still think 
that the price Keith was charging was a rip-off, especially for that time of 
year.  

Word on the private side has it, not many wanted to change the venue this 
year after establishing "something" last year and having such a great time, 
and I don't blame them.  Someone, not me, took up the ball and cut a deal 
with Keith to get the cabins at $15 per person per night and if I'm not 
mistaken these figures and sentiment was expessed to OB, but he balked and 
changed the venue on his own. 

> 
> OK Slyman...time to put up or shut up.  Where and when will
> the next Southern Ruck be?  YOU name the place and time.
> And you can also experience the joys of being the one who
> 
>


 
Lastly, I wouldn't make a group choice without first consulting the others 
that were going to attend.  Since I'm not going to be there this years GARuck 
(and couldn't make it last), I'll let those that are going decide.  

As far as announcing yet another Ruck, yes I will.  

The YuckYuckYuck Ruck for cross country planners.  Exact dates and details to 
be announced, but it probably be held at the NOC.  I'm looking to establish 
dates in March, when the AT hikers start pasing through and before the CDT 
and PCT hikers head out west.

Of course any comments, ideas and/or constructive criticisms are welcome.

Sly


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