[at-l] Is 53lbs. "lite"? Part II.

[sloetoe@yahoo.com (Sloetoe)]

> Message: 7
>    Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 23:25:04 -0000
>    From: guildshoes@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: So is 53 pounds "Lightweight"???
> 
> Why the heck don't you resupply?  If you mail some food stuff
to yourself at both Uncle Johnnies and also at the Kincora
Hostel you will not have to leave the trail much and will save a
ton on the back.

### I don't *wish* to resupply for the same reason I don't drive
my car around with a quarter-tank of gas. I fill my car's tank
to the brim, and then drive it till it's on fumes, rather than
stopping at every gas station I might pass between here and
there. BigskyRyan has written more eloquently about it, but it's
basically for two reasons:
1) I can be a turtle, going slower and not having to dash from
town to town (or place to place in town once I hitch in) like
the hare. (I just don't hike all that fast... on the other hand,
as others have noted, I don't seem to sloe down much, either...)
1a) [Minor reason: as soon as you step into town, you spend
$$$.]
2) It interrupts the "getting away from it all" which is why
I've gotten away from it all in the first place. That's the
biggie.

So the result is that, although my base weights and such might
qualify me as a real live lightweight weenie, my goal is very
different from most on this list: it's not to have the lightest
pack, but to go the farthest with the load carried. (Ryan, how'd
I do?)

> Message: 22
>    Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 18:19:12 -0700
>    From: peter vacco <fluff@inreach.com>
> Subject: Re: So is 53 pounds "Lightweight"???

> >      food  20.5   (approx. 4600 kcal/day)
> what gives here? 10 days at 2#'s a day.
> first of all, that's kind of a lot of food for a trip that has
> both a start and and end (although it wouldn't be for a
thruhiker).
### I'm guessing this is a tangential reference to the
Wheldon-esque "starve at either end" school -- a "You could
stand to lose a few anyway" kind of ethos. Well, although I
might argue otherwise to running friends ...um... let's just say
that I could use a bit *more* cheese in my locker -- especially
for winter travel... Secondly, to compromise on calories is to
guarantee sore muscles -- something for which I certainly didn't
sign up. [Me heap big weenie.] I'm one of those "special kind of
idiots" who run ultra-marathons, but I've managed to do this on
amazingly little (especially to me) training mileage: one reason
why is strict attendance to prompt replacement of what I consume
-- one misstep and I'm limping. No lie. [Me heap big
under-mileaged, lazy a** weenie, too.)

> but please enlighten us as to how you are getting 4600
calories out of 32oz. you gots a ton of fat in there or waht? :
)
### Oh, you called it. Pretty much everything is 50% or better.

Breakfast: Little-Debbie-The-Hiker's-Friend Nutty Buddys (370)
Coffee: suckin' Folgers Crystals out of a (ironically) melatonin
bottle, swishin' and swallowing...

Second Breakfast: Slimfast and Milk double ration:       (252)
(shaken into submission in a lexan Nalgene, worthy of having the
bejesus boiled out of it after slimcrud freezes solid on it.)

Gorp: 102oz for 10 days. This is a norm for warm weather, but
strikes me as too much considering how little I seam to care for
gorp when the weather cools...... Cashews, raisons, cherries,
Reeces pieces, M&M&Ms.                                 (~1300)

Lunch: Liptons Knorr grits bulgar and a really neato two-cheese
asparagus dry soup mix ... typical summer dinner stuff. (~500)
Tea: caffienated, to swish out the pot, and keep me wide-eyed
and bushy-tailed through 20:00 hours

Dinner I,II,III: Pringles (480/half tin), PepperJack Cheese
400/4oz), summer sausage (400/4oz)                     (~1280)

Lessee, that makes 3700 so far....Oh, yeah:
Swiss cheese (400/4oz), jerky (84), and moose balls (400/4oz),
for a very inglorious, ungrand total of 4584/day.

Subject to check.
To the best of my recollection.
As far as I know.
If I recall correctly.
Did I get 'em all, Senator? {oops.}

> and no booze! you gonna go 10 days in the snow, and no booze?
### I wouldna'hah anytin' but de Irish, hen I wouldna'hah dat
but'tin glass, hen I'll not be carryin' no glass to deh
mound-hens. So, den, "no booze."

> food bags all over the room?... still don't reall y know where
you stand? HA! never been there. not me.
### IIIiiiii bet.
 
> make thee a spreadsheet perhaps and then you can punch numbers
all night long till it all looks good.
### Yep. Gettin' there. Tomorrow, possibly. (Really.) I don't
know as it's going to show much more than the crowded, scribbled
back-of-the-envelope summarized above, but if it does, I'll post
numbers.

> best of all though, YOU got a 53 pound pack. and so now I
don't feel so bad about mine. 
> peter v.

Calories to all,
Sloetoe


### Shamelessly cross-posted to the at-l... in recognition of
time as an ever-scarce resource.

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