[at-l] Evidence Of Trailplace Effectiveness

[chaynes@javanet.com (Clifford R. Haynes)]

Truth? Wingfoot did very little, he was just the guy taking the credit. It's
the folks that sent the emails that deserve the credit, well unless you are
saying that Wingfoot falsified a bunch of emails.
Why don't you give it a rest. I have given you the courtesy of reading your
posts here and on TP for over a year now, and frankly I'm getting fed up
with the "Look at me Um a Trail Maintainah" Um better than everyone else,
give me credit, worship me. God man are you that insecure that you have to
constantly have to keep carrying on.
If you love Wingfoot so much go Marry him, or get yourself an old fashion
bath tub, cut it in half, burry the cut end in the ground with it standing
vertically, and put a picture of WF inside so you can kneel before it and
worship your idol. Frankly I didn't used to have anything against Wingfoot,
but with all your "blabberin" I'm beginning to develop a case of dislike for
the guy.
There you have the honor of receiving my first  flame in over 15 years on
line, though it isn't much of a flame.
----- Original Message -----
From: <RoksnRoots@aol.com>
To: <bullard@northnet.org>
Cc: <AT-L@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: [at-l] Evidence Of Trailplace Effectiveness


> In a message dated 6/18/01 8:25:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> bullard@northnet.org writes:
>
> << I get similar replies to letters that I write directly to my
>  congressmember, senator, etc.  I can't remember how many times I've "made
a
>  real difference".  That doesn't mean that I can claim or deserve sole
>  credit (or blame, depending on your point-of-view) for the outcome.  It's
>  called courtesy.  You write nice letters to supporters thanking them for
>  their assistance.  Again, you're missing the point.  No one said he did
>  nothing.  But there's no point in restating it all.  You're obviously
still
>  not listening. >>
>
>     I'm tired so I'll try and answer. I find it unbearably dishonest to
> demand proof, then get it, and still come up with the same old denials
that
> were answered to by the begged proof. I appears that Wingfoot could come
down
> off the mountain with Abraham Lincoln's ghost vouching for him and the
AT*L
> response would be that he faked it. It is obvious to me that no possible
> admission to anything positive from him is going to come about. You speak
to
> me as if I have failed to live up to some expectation when you won't even
> allow a begrudging admission that this letter disproves most of the
invective
> leveled at our friend claiming charlatanism and fraud. I find the E.D. of
ATC
> at least a minimally credible reference. ATC has the decency and integrity
to
> acknowledge a sincere Trail effort. Other responses do nothing but seek
the
> nearest excuse for marginalizing.
>      The fed doesn't just give money when the door is knocked, it follows
> protocols and procedures to appropriate or requisition the funds for
public
> purchases. If the expenditure is legally challenged proof of public
interest
> is then given. We have AT*L members lamenting the woes of property owners
> while WF is out there saving the Trail. Then, even worse, after he has
gotten
> it done you have persons  (whose only input in this process is to try and
> defeat the doer) then try and pass some sort of false sense of community
will
> off for the aimed hostility the are busy working on instead of assisting
> those who actually DO help the AT.
>     Yes, this could be a courtesy remark, but it also could be due
> recognition with an inner held knowledge that Trailplace tipped the
funding
> scale in the AT's direction. The fact that the worst description is given
in
> every case shows the posters are not really objectively seeking the truth
and
> proves what I was saying all along. I know I won't have to wait up waiting
> for these posters to find out the truth, since they are not really
interested
> in it anyway. This doesn't help the AT. How people who so strongly express
a
> special insight into the AT can justify trying to undo such a needed
> grassroots AT advocacy site while it proves to fill a needed niche in AT
> interests is beyond me.
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