[at-l] Sleeping questions

[kahley7@ptd.net (kahley)]

At 01:41 PM 5/29/01 -0400, Robert Rubin wrote:


>As a compromise, you might try a trick that has worked for me: carrying two
>pads. I found it was actually lighter to carry a 3/4 length ThermaRest
>ultralite (the half-inch thick model) and a full-length closed-cell foam
>Ridgerest or Z-rest than it was to carry a full-length one-inch-thick
>thermarest, much less the extra-thick model.

Ditto...I use an ultralight 3/4 Thermie and a full length Mt Lawson Pad which
is <1/2 in thick and weighs nothing <g>.  I have also tried the die cut 
thermies
(is that the light version?) and was not impressed, either with or without the
thin closed cell pad.  Both combos weigh in at less than the thicker thermies.

BUT....I just bought a egg crate shaped closed cell foam pad called the 
Mt.Washington.
I've only tested it for one night and haven't done a side by side 
comparison between
the old Thermie/Lawson combo and this new pad solo but I AM impressed.  I went
for the egg crate pad because we use the same type of pad on our bunks on the
boat and they are tres comfy.  7oz.....
Mt Wash pad.......http://www.paramountoutfitters.com/foam.html

But

>The closed-cell pad (which I
>lashed outside my pack) provides insulation from cold ground, a break-time
>seat, a temporary place-holder in shelters, etc. The thermarest, on top of
>it, provides some air cushioning to keep my weighty hips (I'm 275 lbs) from
>getting too badly bruised on hard shelter floors until I'm trail hardened.
>
>The comfy matteresses are worth their weight on the first few nights, when
>an uncomfortable pad will keep you awake all night. Once you're exhausted
>from a few days of hiking, though, they're less vital. Once you're in
>long-distance hiker shape from a month or so of hiking, you can sleep on a
>board and it won't matter, as long as you're insulated from the cold
>ground. Some folks choose to start out heavy and low-mileage, and then
>lighten up and speed up as they get into condition.
>
>The ultra-light folks hoot at my two-pad arrangement, but it works for me.
>
>I used a semirectangular bag on my thru, and had plenty of room, but paid
>the weight price since it was synthetic. When damp from foggy nights in the
>mountains, it was well over 5 lbs--way too heavy, though still warm. In my
>view, the bigger the bag you need, the better (and lighter weight) the
>quality of materials should be, to make up for the extra material.
>
>--Rhymin' Worm
>
>At 6:30 PM -0400 5/29/01, Drake, Russ SKCS wrote:
> >I know it has been a while since I posted, but I am deployed right now in
> >the Mediterranean Sea and email access is not as available as it is state
> >side.
> >
> >My questions on specific gear are:
> >
> >Is there that big a difference between 1" thick Therma Rest and 1 1/2" as
> >far as comfort goes.  Is it worth the extra ounces?
> >
> >I have a 46" chest and wide shoulders and I find most mummy bags like a
> >straight jacket, Does anyone know of a sleeping bag that is a bit more
> >roomier.    I am looking at the Sierra Design Stretch bags...
> >
> >Any suggestions?
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Russ
> >
> >GO NAVY!
> >
> >
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