In a message dated 3/23/01 3:31:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, kahley7@ptd.net writes: << BY Jove ..you're right! I got out my arm extensions <g>and that is a buckle! Uh oh.....time for me to join the prepeoptic six , I guess. <sigh> >> Somebody give this girl a cocktail! It only took her what? Two days? <g> I have no room to talk, I couldn't get the dang thing opened either... Kelly Sue