Re: [at-l] "Real World" (was -look at me stunts and Goose Creek,etc)

oooh, that's really interesting.  i understand the disconnectedness thing.
i am so disconnected right now, and i don't think i want to connect with
this societal thing.  i agree that the trail is merely an approximation of
our connection with the natural world, but i think that our disconnectedness
to it is because of our own doing.  we need so much because we have created
that which we need.  hiking brings us closer because we ditch those things
and take only the bare necessities (food, clothing, shelter), thus giving us
a taste of freedom.  weekend and week-long hikes don't impact one the way a
6 month hike would because it's back to the "stuff" of modern humankind so
quickly, that you never forget what you had, and you never get the chance to
realize that you never missed it.

belcher

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>From: Ben Wright <silas_wright@yahoo.com>
>To: at-l@backcountry.net
>Subject: Re: [at-l] "Real World" (was -look at me stunts and Goose  Creek,etc)
>Date: Sat, Dec 30, 2000, 8:36 PM
>

>
>> <sorry I lost track of who wrote it>
>> why is civilization called the "real world?"  I
>> believe the real world is
>> >that of the trail.  what we have out here is the
>> stuff we have created, and
>> >rules that only humans live by.  in my mind,
>> there's nothing real about it.
>
> "Servilization" seems a "surreal world" to me often.
> I feel that the trail is closer to what I feel is a
> real world for me. But, We have to remember that this
> trail with its shelters, towncrossings, etc. is a
> creation of modern human society. I spent small
> portions of 1998 and 1999 on trailcrew. The creation
> of the trail itself is a fluid process which has quite
>
> a few similarities to road construction including
> chainsawing trees and brush that stand in the way
> instead of going around. (this brought quite a bit of
> internal ethical discussion within me) So, while it is
>
> closer to a connected existence with each other and
> to the earth, it is an approximation.  But, that is
> not a bad start.
>
> Maybe what I am really trying to say (I am processing
> this as I write), I think its a better discussion
> to talk about "connectness" than "reality."
> "Servilization" is about disconnected-ness to each
> other and the earth while what I'm looking for is
> closer to a sense of connected-ness. The
> connected-ness
> is what is real for me. Disconnected-ness is what
> breeds the sense of surreality in my opinion.
>
> Ben Wright / Turbo Turtle
>
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